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mcdonald's bags out the window where there were thousands more mcdonnealcdonald's bag. glad we don't do that anymore. your world with caputo is next. i'll see you tomorrow from simi valley, california. until them, have a great afternoon. all right. speaking of simi valley, california, you are looking at the casket of nancy reagan lying in repose at the ronald reagan presidential library. we'll be there through tomorrow. a formal good-bye to nancy reagan begins. adam at the reagan library right now. adam? >> reporter: good afternoon, neil. beautiful day here on top of the hill in simi valley, california. as you mentioned the public viewing has begun. it began a bit early here. they planned on doing it right now. it started 25, 30 minutes ago. at least 100 people lined up down the hill. two miles from here, they have a
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location where buses will pick them up and see the former first lady lie if n repose. today the procession, itself, left the funeral home in west los angeles. the same location that former president ronald reagan was taken care of 12 1/2 years ago. took almost the exact same route as they did back then. as they made their way up through the los angeles freeway system, coincidentally on the ronald reagan freeway, 118 which brought them here to simi valley, california, then up presidential drive passing hundreds and hundreds of flag and people along the way. there were firefighters and police standing at attention on the overpasses as the first lady -- as the casket being carried in that hearse, the first lady passed by. now, when we had a chance to talk with those here at the reagan library who'd known for a long time, they will tell you this whole process actually has been planned for a very long time by the first lady, herself. >> it really was a love affair. they were equals in every sense of the way.
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people felt that. when he passed away, the outpouring of support to her was just tremendous. now i think people want to almost return that and give that same outpouring of support to her as she lay in rest as well. >> reporter: and there's other names that will be here for friday's service. as you mentioned currently right now the public is getting their chances to pay their respects. we did have many who volunteer here and the family, of course, go through at the very beginning. people that have been volunteering here for years since the library open. mrs. reagan was beloved here, of course, spent a lot of time here until recently, coming for many, many events. her last visit here was last year on the anniversary of her husband's death. other dignitaries for the service at 11:00 local time friday also governor schwarzenegger will be here, tom selleck, ralph lauren. there's been a bunch of other names as we know. members of the nixon family, the eisenhower family, of course, george w. bush, first lady
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michelle obama will be here. still getting more people requesting to come to this event friday to celebrate the life of nancy reagan. of course, we'll have all the details for you. as you can tell, quite a day in simi valley, a gorgeous day and a lot of people waiting to say good-bye to the first lady. >> i imagine, adam. thank you very, very much. as you notice over the last few days you get to see a lot of great clips not only of nancy reagan but ronald reagan and the period of the '80s that so dominated all our lives. it is interesting today that we ceseven-year-long bull market. reminds me of the bull market that ensued under ronald reagan back in 1982. the likes of which we have not seen in american history. anyway, i want to bring in someone who can put that era, that period in some perspective. former nancy reagan press secretary sheila tate. she's seen here with nancy reagan at a christmas party. so many great moments. so i think this has been a very tough week for you, but we very much appreciate you taking the
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time. when you go back and all these memories, i just see looking at the old footage, those are very, very different times, weren't they? >> you know, i was just thinking how innocent they seemed. when some of the media revived some of what they call the controversies of the time, they just seem so minute compared to the kinds of things that are going on today. >> yeah. and i also think what we're watching would be at loggerheads and first ladies would be at loggerheads today. now you have the candidates' spouses going at each other. i mean, there were obviously differences and strong differences, but i guess some of the genteel qualities of those days, they're long gone, aren't they? >> oh, gosh. i hope it's only temporary. you know, i heard somebody criticize president obama for not coming to this. i'd just like to mention the
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fact that it is a wonderful tribute to nancy reagan that michelle obama is coming. when beth truman died, i was with nancy reagan at her funeral. presidents don't -- if they didn't know the decedent, they seldom go to those funerals. it's not unusual. i thought it was infaunfair, my. >> i did as well. the only case in recent history is john kennedy, jacqueline kennedy both going to eleanor roosevelt's funeral in hyde park, but that was by far the exception than the rule. most presidents, even former presidents rarely really go to first lady's funeral unless there's a direct link with their administration. i'm glad you mentioned that, sheila. the bipartisan decorum, i think that should be mentioned. thank you very, very much. >> you're welcome. all right. two people who knew nancy reagan
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fairly well, rick ahern, of course, former special assistant to ronald reagan, remained a very close adviser to nancy reagan. also james rosebush, former chief of staff to nancy reagan, author of "true reagan." both, of course, will be at the funeral. rick, i always think of you, first off, in the famous shots after the attempted assassination on ronald reagan, and i know you witnessed up close the role nancy reagan had to play in that. you're in the gray suit behind him in the glasses there. but i cannot imagine -- i mean, you recognize the magnitude of that by the time you got to the hospital. how about nancy reagan? did she -- when did she learn -- because she later joined him -- when did she learn how severe it was? >> well, it was -- did become commonly known to those of us at the hospital how severe the
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injury was until after the president had been in the treatment room for a while. actually went into surgery. the bullet that struck the president was actually the fifth round of six that were fired and it ricocheted on the side of the limousine and flattened into the shape and size of a dime. and the sharp side of the bullet entered the president's armpit as he was diving into the limb zone. there was very little blood in evidence which is why originally motorcade was returning to the white house. then the special agent in charge of the presidential protective detail noticed some pink froth in the corner of the president's mouth and diverted the motorcade to george washington hospital. so it was not for quite some time after the president's arrival in the treatment room that the magnitude of his injuries was fully known. so that's when mrs. reagan became aware, when others became aware. >> amazing. >> she had no idea when she
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arrived at the hospital. >> right. >> none of us. >> you add mentioned, too, i think that that assassination attempt forever changed -- it was only two months into his presidency -- nancy reagan's view and almost, say, she was very concerned for her husband's safety. there were reports she didn't want him to run for re-election. we can get to that in a second. she was also very, very leery of who was let into that hospital room to visit him and from that moment on to deal with him, wasn't she? >> well, i think it's interesting, neil, that she was that day, she was being honored at a luncheon in washington, d.c., and she had a sense that she had to get back to the white house. she didn't know exactly why, but she asked to be excused from the lunch, got in her car and came back to the white house not knowing exactly what the rest of the day and the rest of her life was going to hold. but you're absolutely right, she had a sense of foreboding, any time the president left the white house, went on a trip,
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especially ife went alone, she wanted to be there. i remember when we went to rome, another one of her firsts, to meet with the pope in a bilateral meeting on the issue of drug abuse, she wanted to race back to germany where he was involved in a state visit at the time and be reunited with him. so there was a sense from that point on that wherever the president went, she had a high degree of anxiety and fear about it, which is very natural if someone that close to you, and i would say they had a real compact, they completed each other's sentences, so to speak, so when you're that close to someone for that long, you want to feel protective and as she always was. i thnk that i think that's one of the things she's most honored for. you have a sense of fear. >> if we can look back further in time way before he became president -- not way before, but i guess it was after the oh so close but failed effort to get the republican nomination from
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the sitting president, gerald ford. he failed at that as you know, rick, and there was some sentiment, maybe it wasn't worth it to go for the presidency again in 1980, but we're told that nancy reagan pushed him in that regard. why? >> well, i believe that she did encourage him. i don't know if pushed is the right word. jim might have a better perspective on that. >> aggressively encouraged. >> okay. aggressively encouraged is a fine term. but she was right next to him. once he made that decision to run. she was there on the road on a consistent basis, putting in the same long hours and long days as governor reagan did. and everybody who's watching the current primary season can see what an aggressive -- how aggressive you have to be to run in the primaries, and in those days we had a lot less technology than we have now, for example, no cell phones, no
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computers, things of that nature. so it was sort of a different ball game to a certain degree as you try to move around and communicate with the electorate. and it requires a lot of long days, long hours, and mrs. reagan was always right by his side. >> you know, i'm always reminded of that proverb, be careful what you wish for, you might get it. that could explain nancy reagan lying in state in simi valley, california, at reagan library, that she was eager for her husband to run for the presidency, thought he would be a very good president. then, of course, it's all the public scrutiny you get. she got it as well. he got it as well. and back to my earlier discussion that maybe it was the assassination attempt, maybe it was all that scrutiny, maybe she felt that after the first term ronald reagan had done most of what he set out to do, turned the country around, started this revolution, this bull market i alluded to at the outset. and she didn't want him to run for re-election.
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is that right? >> well, neil, she always said that they paid a high price. anyone does for being in high office like that and being in a leadership position, but you have to add, rick is right. i want to add this. that reagan always thought of himself in terms of destiny and mission. and nancy reagan knew him so well that she knew that this was a role, this was the ultimate role for him to be playing and she knew the situation the country was in and what he was working on, this grand strategy to end soviet communism, domination in eastern europe, so she knew this destiny and this mission were very much a part of the way reagan saw his life and as his big supporting partner there, you know, it's often said if ronald reagan sold shoes, nancy reagan would be there at the cash register ringing up the sales. so she knew that he saw himself in, really in a historical context. he saw that he was put in this
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position to do the things that he felt motivated to do. so while she might have been somewhat concerned about another term and the sacrifice that it might bring, she also knew that she couldn't inhibit or hold back someone who saw himself in this historical context. >> you know, rick, i don't want to get into politics but i'm reminded of what joe biden said the other day that ronald reagan would have a tough time getting nominated in this party, republican party, today. what did you think of that? >> well, as is normally the case, i disagree with vice president joe biden as i do disagree with him on a number of things. i think ronald reagan would do just fine in the current -- in the current primary cycle. i think that his conservatism, his ideals would fit very well and i think that he would do just fine if he were a candidate in this cycle.
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again, i respectfully disagree with the vice president. if i may go back for one moment to talk about nancy reagan, the person. >> sure. >> you made reference to the incident of the assassination attempt. i think it's important for people to know there were who sides of nancy reagan, i think jim would agree with this. of course, she had a very steel spine and was devoted to her husband and had a very good eye as to who had the president's best interests at heart and who might not. but the day of the shooting, it's important to know that when she was at that hospital and the president had gone into surgery, she reached out to sarah brady, jim brady's wife, whose husband was also at the brink of death from a serious gunshot wound to the head. she invited her to go -- the first lady invited mrs. brady, sarah, to go with her to the hospital chapel and to comfort her, console her and pray with her. even in a moment of great stress for herself, she was concerned for the fate of others. >> i'm glad you mentioned that. a lot of people don't know that.
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i'm glad both of you took the sometime to remember, i'm sure, a very good friend. we only know as a public fig wr you. you know a lot better. >> thank you very much. >> nancy reagan being laid to rest in a couple of days. we'll have more to this. sales event is on. with extraordinary offers on the stylish, all-new rx... and the dynamic nx. ♪ this is the pursuit of perfection. i love to take pictures that engage people. and to connect us with the wonderment of nature. the detail on this surface book is amazing. with the tiger image, the saliva coming off and you got this turning. that's why i need this kind of resolution and computing power. being able to use a pen like this. on the screen directly with the image. it just gives me a different relationship to it. and i can't do that on my mac.
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all right. we are getting word out of florida right now that jeb bush, former governor, former presidential candidate, meet might have already happened. tomorrow, john kasich, ted cruz, in other words, anyone but a fellow named donald trump. on what that might mean and what influence jeb bush might have. he's a former reagan campaign adviser. my money, one of the greatest strategies of all-time. >> i appreciate that. thank you. >> i mean it, my friend. let me ask you a little bit about that. what influence would, no offense to jeb bush, remarkable governor, didn't quite pan out as a presidential candidate, but that might mean little. he has a -- he did have an incredible financial army here. what influence would he bring to bear in this race? >> at this stage of the race, i don't think much. obviously rubio was hoping two weeks ago he was going to get that endorsement and try to build on it. i think rubio is hanging on by a
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thread to try to survive. i don't think it's going to make a -- kind kiof a one-day story, two-day story. no organization he can turn over anymore. not complicated anymore. it was complicated, he and rubio, minority ost of his supp have gone to rubio. rubio is in a fight for his life. cruz is going to get in the race and isn't going to endorse either kasich or cruz. my sense is he may be telling him, wish you well, guy, hope you'll beat trump but i don't think it's going to make a difference at this point in time. >> you know, a lot has been mentioned of the polls in that i guess if you're marco rubio, you're hoping that the polls are just as wildly wrong as they were in michigan that produced the bernie sanders upset there. what do you think? >> i think florida is a very different state. florida is very much a media state, ten media markets. it's not an organizational state. it's like california. i grew up in california. you didn't have big organizations, the state was too big. so my sense is when you have a 10- or 15-point lead, it's hard
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to erase that lead. trump has ownership in florida, he loves florida and floridians love him. we'll see in a week. he's at a pioint right now, he' a credible candidate, people doing something to stop him and haven't slowed him down yet. the other issue, absentee ballots already cast, many have been cast for jeb and those are wasted votes at this point in time. we'll have to wait and see. >> if that is the case, it's a cruz/trump race, probably trump would like it as a trump/cruz race. play that out real quickly. >> i think that's where it is, anyway. i think -- cruz won his state which he had to do. he's now winning other states. any place there's mechanicalcamt you need, like the closed primaries where the democrats in advance -- cruz has the better operation. trump obviously is a great marketer. he goes in at these massive rallies, he's basically tapping into the electorate as the outsider and the exit polls yesterday, 59% of the people who
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voted yesterday are very upset with the republicans in washington. this was a republican primary. so my sense, he's really tapped into that and so that's where i see it. >> mr. rollins, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. >> the issue becomes contested convention, anyone? after this.
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we're all tremendously pleased and honored to have ron reagan and nancy reagan come down. >> you know, that was the last republican contested convention and we could be facing something similar to that. back in 1976. some say that very divided convention that ended up at least on an amicable ending
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note, very classy of ronald reagan to come down and graciously accept the defeat, support the president who went on to be defeated by jimmy carter. that prospect that it could happen again this year. wait until you see. burt, historian extrodinaire, on playing out the possibilities. i noticed, first, the party always talks about saying it would not be a brokered conventi convention. the idea of brokers inside rooms and smoke-filled rooms sorting this out is wrong. that's why we don't agree with that description. it would be a contested convention in that event. the trump people say that if they get 1,237 delegates, the minimum you need, there should be no reason to contest. are they right? >> yes, they are right. if donald trump wins those 1,237 delegates he wins on the first ballot, in that case it will not be a contested convention. >> okay. because there are other rules, i guess, that say this is where it gets maybe in a black helicopter crowd, cynical, jaded, paranoid crowd, that says, you know,
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they're not all obligated to vote that way on the first ballot. could you disavow me of that possibility or what, what are the rules there? i always thought if you were assigned candidate, that's the candidate you have to vote for, the second ballot was anyone's guess. are all 100% of those delegates duty bound on the first ballot to vote for that candidate? >> they are. >> okay. >> now, sometimes you can have a challenge to a delegation and a challenge to a delegate. >> we had that happen before in '76 with the republicans and ronald reagan. it happened in 1980 with the democrats and ted kennedy against jimmy carter. it has happened, right? >> yeah, it has. in 1964 with lipidyndon johnson. mississippi. a challenge. this does happen. if the delegates are there and fully credentialed, you have to honor their vote on the first ballot. >> you know, professor, i always wondered, maybe donald trump got
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this right the other night saying if i win it's sort of like a prize fighter, i got to win on a knockout to avoid handing it to the judges. there is something to that, isn't there? >> there is. sometimes candidates who have a lead on the first ballot, but don't get a majority, end up having the other candidates gang up on them. and sometimes you compromise on a third party -- or third person. and so that's where the dark horse can come in. i mean, warren harding did that in 1920 nomination and ended up being in many ways an effective president. >> yeah, you're right about that. garfield the same way. through a process that was confused to put it mildly. >> yes. >> the one thing i always hear is what if the lower-ranked players group up and combine? one theory i heard bandied about, professor, is ted cruz and marco rubio combining as if they could legally combine their delegates in that event. what are the possibilities then?
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>> that would have to happen on the second ballot. >> gotcha. >> of course, those two candidates don't get along very well in the first place. that would have to happen on the second ballot. even ronald reagan was not able to create a contested convention the two times he ran. when he ran against nixon in 1968, he had a majority of the primary votes because he won the california primary. he could not beat richard nixon. he tried in that tape that we heard in 1976 to defeat gerald ford, even by trying to align, create his vice president, senator shliker from pennsylvania too create a ticket. he couldn't even do it with that. it's very hard to do, to block someone in a close race and if you have somebody who has a majority of the votes, you can't beat them. >> all right. real quickly then, professor, do you think republicans are facing that or do you see, especially next week if trump were to pick up florida and ohio, these
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winner-take-all states that the respective candidates are sort of pinning their last hopes, he is going to be the nominee? >> i think that if donald trump wins the state of ohio and wins the state of florida which as you say, neil, are winner take all, he will take the nomination. there is california which is a winner take all in the congressional districts. i think if trump wins those two states, he will be well on his way, he will win the nomination on the first ballot. >> all right. that could be significant right there. we'll watch it. professor, thank you very, very much. i appreciate it. >> thank you, neil. all right. well, that doesn't mean that ted cruz isn't trying to do anything and everything he possibly can to change what some say could be inevitable math. he says, look, i'm only 99 delegates behind this guy and today i got carly fiorina to back me. maybe jeb bush. next. so is cruz the one on cruise
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tonight in a special one hour live town hall, john kasich goes one-on-one with gretchen taking questions from voters and
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giving real answers. don't miss "on the record" live from chicago. all right. well it is very chic these days to try to search out big endorsements. they don't always work. but carly fiorina could make a big difference in ted cruz's campaign. hard to say. but he also has the more conventional, i guess, establishment player backing him, jeb bush's brother, neil bush, who told me last night why he was going cruz. >> my wife and i have joined the ted cruz bandwagon and we're happy to so. we're fellow texans with ted and know he'll be an effective president. >> did you discuss this with your brother, jeb? >> i did not discuss with my brother, jeb. he may be learning this for the first time watching your show as a matter of fact. >> really? >> i'm an independent -- yeah. i'm an independent-minded guy. haven't talked to any of my family about this. i think they found out yesterday that i joined the ted cruz
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campaign but they didn't know i was going to be heightening my advocacy by being on your show. but, you know, this country is at a critical turning point. you know what's interesting to me, neil, this is the time when normally the republican party could be unifying around a candidate and i think it's pretty clear that there's only one candidate left in this race that's actually talking about ideas. >> all right. that's neil bush. i don't know what his brother, jeb bush is doing. he's obviously meeting with any candidate not named trump. so what that ultimately brings an endorsement is anyone's guess or will move the needle. communications specialist lee carter, fox news contributor, author meghan mccain, what do you think? >> do i think it moves the needle? i think neil bush doesn't move the needle but i think carly fiorina could have a major impact. i was a huge huge carly fiorina fan and supporter. i think her most notable moment is when donald trump talked about her face and she responded so eloquently during the debate and i think she has the capacity
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of young conservative women taking a second look at ted cruz. for me, honestly i've been hesitant about ted cruz and the carly fiorina endorsement swayed my opinion. >> i don't think it does. i think carly's vote went elsewhere, to other candidates, some of them went to cruz and some of them went elsewhere. the percentage of her votes was at the time, 3%, 2%, that she dropped out. yes, do i think she is influential? yes. but the number of people she can influence i don't think is ultimately going to impact the race. >> you know, i think the only guy that can make a huge difference in this race, to match my prediction, is arnold schwarzenegger. when he supports john kasich, i think that's going to pay huge dividends because, my gosh, that's the terminator. having said that, i wonder, do endorsements matter? because if -- listen, newspaper endorsements matter, john kasich would be the president-elect right now. so i don't know, but i guess in
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competitive states, do they move the needle a little bit? what do you think? >> listen, i just told you i've been hesitant about ted cruz for a longtime, i'm #nevertrump. i'm a carly fiorina fan, i wore one of her t-shirts while i was watching the debate. if carly fiorina says, #nevertrumprepublicans, what we need to get around ted cruz right now at this moment, i'm supporting ted cruz as well. >> you would support trump if he ultimately became the nominee? >> i'm #nevertrump. i'm #neverfru trump. >> could you remove the hash tag? >> i could never vote for hillary clinton and sleep well at night and talk to my future grandchildren, could never do the same thing with donald trump. there are republicans struggling with the same thing, ted cruz looks like the formidable candidate to go up against trump. >> lee, i want to show a couple of polls in ohio and florida that seem to show donald trump despite all of this news could be well on his way to capturing those winner-take-all states and
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at least torpedoing the threats of john kasich and marco rubio while he's at it. you were going to say? >> no, i think that trump is well ahead. i mean, and despite the endorsement, i think rubio would be, you know, the heir apparent if endorsements were everything. i do think endorsements matter on a local level, so when you like somebody, so, meagan, you're talks about how much you like carly fiorina, she has an impact on you personally. talking about your friends, an influencer in your community, those people matter. >> they only matter in a closes state, right? if the polls aren't so close, i could see if they're separated by a per sent. by the way, the polls mean nothing. we learned in michigan they're not always worth the data they're written with. >> that's for sure? >> in a close race i can see them being influential. both of the crucial states, maybe>> listen, the playbook han completely thrown out the window
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by donald trump. we're sitting here with 2/3 of the republican party struggling with the idea of having donald trump as our nominee. i think any little bit helps. i'm always a fan of strong conservative women. carly fiorina spoke to me during the election for a lot of reasons. lindsey graham and carly fiorina are telling me i have it get behind ted cruz so right now i'm getting behind ted cruz. >> lee, i wonder what you do for a hail mary pass if you are ted cruz. only to be fair, he's only 99 delegates behind and donald trump has only a third of the delegates he'll need. having said that, though, what about going over to marco rubio and saying, hey, how about you and i forming a team? what about going over to john kasich? how about you and i formsing a team? the rubio might make better sense because he has a few more delegates. something like that just to jar the equation. >> well, i mean, it would make common sense for that to happen. i can't imagine rubio or kasich either one of them actually swallowing that because i think it will -- >> by the way, it worked in
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"house of cards," but i guess not in real life. >> you know, they're so -- if they were to do that, they would likely win, but the truth of the matter is, i mean, the voters i talk to and we're out there talking to voters all the time, i'm a researcher, and as we're talking to folks, when people are talking a ining about cruz, vote against someone. i talk to so few people who are really excited about ted cruz. very, very few people who are rabid ted cruz supporters. it's like, maybe, i kind of think i should because he represents what i think it should be. but people who support donald trump are rabid, they believe he's going to make america great. whether or not i agree with that, that's the way these voters feel and it is excites for them and there is momentum behind them and that's hard to break. >> there's still a lot of, like i said, 2/3 of the republican party are having a hard time with this not necessarily supporting donald trump. his negative numbers up against hillary clinton are daunting. there's a lot of reasons to be questioning donald trump. >> i love you to death, but it should b
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be #i'vegotaseriousgrudgehere. >> my problems with donald trump go way behind his beef with my father and at this point i think, like, there's a lot of things that have happened. i mean, talking about his anatomy in the presidential stage in his last debate is not someone i would have my little sister, young person to watch. a lot of reasons not to like donald trump that go way beyond the fight with my father, neil. >> okay. maybe #weallgottohug here and move on. thank you very, very much. you know, the one thing we're leaving out of this, the democratic side, everyone is focused on the republican problems. you know, the democrats have some doozies. see what happened in michigan? this is the same state that all the polls had hillary clinton up by double digits. i mean, serious double digits and bernie wins. now, that's a race. constipated?
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not 100%, but they were really way, way off in the state of michigan which is expected to be a runaway for hillary clinton and it turned out to be a victory for bernie sanders. so obviously candidates down and out in the polls now are clinging to that as the possibility that maybe lightning could strike twice, if you're marco rubio, maybe thrice if you are john kasich. larry, on that, what to make of a democratic race that has turned a little bit here. did it move things for you? or is it still hillary clinton's nomination to lose? >> neil, i'm easily moved, as you know, and i was moved by the bernie sanders victory in wisconsin. look, they were -- they were convinced -- >> you're talking michigan. maybe was a a freudian slip. maybe you think it's going to wisconsin that way, too. >> well, you know, you just can't tell. wisconsin would be another state where bernie sanders could easily win. there are several others where
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you can see him scoring an upset. >> he'd have to get a lot of these, right? he'd have to run the table with these so-called rust belt states that are very angry -- angrier than we thought -- about trade deals that they didn't benefit from even though many of them orchestrated by hillary clinton's husband, bill clinton, even though she has repudiated those. play this out for me. what are we looking at? >> look, part of it is the fact that people like bernie sanders, he's direct, he's honest, he tells you what he really thinks and he excites a lot of the democrat democratic electorate, particularly the younger electorate that will show enthusiasm and come out to vote. the other half of this that's actually interesting to me, neil, hillary clinton with every advantage known to man and woman, cannot put away a 74-year-old socialist. now, i mean, think about it. really? >> that's a good point. >> that's the problem for her.
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>> i wonder about just like the candidates who regretted not running in 1992 because they thought that george bush sr. was unbeatable and bill clinton did. did you think there are any establishment players, big players in the party who are right about now regretting that they didn't run? >> well, i can think of a guy who lives in the vice president's house. i don't know how many guys live in there, but i can think of one. look, there may be others. you know, senators who, male or female, might -- elizabeth warren, for example. if bernie sanders has done this well, imagine how well she might have done against hillary clinton given the democratic electorate which has clearly moved to the left on a number of issues. >> you know, i mentioned that, i was talking to a democratic activist last night on "fox business" which, professor, you don't get, you really should demand. i know you already did. >> we get it. we get it right hear in charlottesville. >> excellent.
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excellent. you're a frequent guest. having said that, they love the idea of running against donald trump. they think he is easy shmeezy beat beatable by a landslide. i'm saying to myself, self, weren't they saying that about ronald reagan in 1980? weigh in here. >> i would tell self that he's absolutely correct. in fact, i can remember that in a crystal clear way because there was a comment after comment from carter white houses officials that things were really going badly for them but they finally, finally hit the jackpot because ronald reagan was going to be the nominee and it was all over. you know, you're halfway to losing when you think you can't lose. that's a lesson for hillary clinton if, indeed, she does face donald trump. you never assume you can't lose and particularly clinton. she's got a lot of her own problems. donald trump has his. she's got hers. >> you know, the cruz people
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have been saying, cruz, himself, today, there's no way donald trump can win, he's losing a lot of republicans, he can't do it. trump's argument has been look at all the people i'm bringing into the party, more than ever participated, thousands who were democrats became republicans to him. we are widening that ten. the trump people, right? >> well, there is some truth to that. i don't know how many of these are truly new people and i don't know how many of them are not regular republicans who vote in the fall, at least. maybe skipping the primaries. i'll tell you this much. it is eight months to the general election. as bad as the wisconsin polls were, six of seven taken within the last few days had clinton winning on average by almost 20%. she lost by 2? that's a rotten performance. and we're depending on polls already telling us what will happen in november? come on. this is ridiculous.
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>> you mean michigan, right? >> i'm sorry. if i said another state. >> you said wisconsin. >> i love your line. you're halfway to losing if you think you can't lose. that line is now mine. i will take ownership of it.
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all right. for my money, one of the best things i ever saw on tv, a candidate, taking a bow for his victory was donald trump last night. where he show cased all his products that mitt romney said had all gone defunct including his steaks. i want you to focus on the one that dropped. i found this very interesting. watch what happens. here's the died with the steaks. or did he go back? here he is. we had this in slow motion.
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the steak drops. watch this. watch this. see the guy who sleeps for it? did you see that? he gave to it charlie gasparino, just so you know. now you know the rest of the story. all right. he is in charlotte, north carolina. 72 delegates up for grabs. they're not a winner take all state but donald trump is already setting his sights on it. >> reporter: just about 70 degrees and sun. we're not complaining. after a couple of those early states. donald trump, we are awaiting him just a couple hours from now. he will make a return trip here. he will be in fayetteville. it is notable because it is near ft. bragg. he was in the charlotte area a couple days ago. he is setting his sights on north carolina. 72 delegates prox portionately awarded on tuesday night. not a winner take all. the second most in play on
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tuesday. ted cruz was here as well yesterday. he made a couple stops. it was cruz making nois in the south florida area when he unveiled the endorsement of carly fiorina and he did so in rubio's backyard. rubio is in hialeah. he is camped out, rubio is, in south florida trying to pull off his home state victory. then john kasich is in the midwest today. he will be at the debate tomorrow night. and then ohio, his home state throughout. >> all right. thank you very much. again, it was very unusual to see what donald trump did last night. there was a sort of brilliance to it. because he had been rimmed over the coals. a lot of these the businesses were no longer successful with the water and the steaks and everything else, which might have looked like a home shopping
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channel. point taken. the victory is made. donald trump on candidates willing and eager to respond. that will do it.
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